At this point I’m considering creating a category just for lengthy responses to and/or twists on something Peter has posted. “Civilized culture wars”, perhaps. Or “tea and vehemence”.
Anyway, this week it’s a post about another post, one of the better of the “reclaiming America’s lost manhood” genre. I have some (fairly minor) issues with that post, which I’ll address at the bottom, but what I really wanted to respond to was this from Peter:
I guess I don’t altogether ‘get’ the anti-masculine emphasis among feminists and their ilk. Perhaps that’s because I come from Africa, where to be ‘manly’ (in the classical sense) is rather more important than it is in other parts of the world. Sure, you can be a ‘metrosexual’ in a big African city (if you don’t mind being laughed to scorn) . . . but drive a few miles out of town, where there are things with teeth and horns and hooves that don’t like you, and see how far your ‘metrosexuality’ will get you (and your loved ones) as a survival skill!
Then, just so we’re all on the same page about exactly what we’re talking about, I’ll excerpt the first part of the bit he did:
I grew up with sitcoms that bashed the cigar-smoking, poker playing man. Tide commercials with women wrinkling their noses at the presence of a man’s laundry. What was communicated was that there was something wrong with men in general. Or at least that was what was driven into me.
But the caveman was fixed by making him a sensitive wimp. The gruff man was emasculated. Cut down, not improved. Man became polyester disco weenies, man became preppy effeminate pansies. And now what does the world have as a result?
The caveman could be called upon to change the oil in your Chevy. The caveman would repair a woman’s roof, build things. Kill spiders. The caveman might have grunted too much, may have drank too much. Wasn’t polite in mixed company. But the caveman was a man.
A transition occurred. It was once that the “Wifey” served up a steak meal for her man. Unfair and sexist, and fuel for a positive change. The change, though, turned modern man into a weak passive herbivore. Modern man was forced to fix his faults by no longer being a man.
The fix to ‘improve’ man took away too much. Watered a strong man down to a woman that could grow facial hair - but wouldn’t of course. Men were conditioned to be sensitive, but as a result became nonsupporting. Men would cry with you, but no longer have a shoulder to cry upon.
Okay then.
The first thing I want to point out which is necessary to my argument making any sort of sense, is that there is nothing whatsoever about cigars, steak, poker, oil changes, or spider slaying that actually relates to having testicles and producing small gametes with them. It’s entirely a cultural construction of masculinity, or a culture of manhood if you prefer. It doesn’t rest on any one thing, but many things are included in the idea and culture of manhood being discussed, including physical courage, stoicism, a sometimes confused blend of assertiveness and aggression, and all sorts of pastimes and arcana of man-ness, which (most) American men want to defend and reclaim and (some) feminists would rather see dialed back if not destroyed altogether.
Anyone who has met my better half knows that I am not in that camp of feminists. I enjoy men and masculinity, and for the most part I enjoy a lot of “man culture” as well- I’ll take a pass on the sports and farting contests, but cigars and meat and muscle cars and table-pounding straight talk are awesome. That said, I see two major reasons for why that camp of feminists exists, and while I heartily disagree with it, I also can easily understand it and see why it’s probably not going away for a long time if ever.
The first is that, just as a regrettable amount of misandry is bound up in feminist culture as a whole and can’t be completely separated out in an honest discussion, an equally regrettable amount of misogyny is bound up in the culture of manliness. The unreconstructed caveman’s major flaw isn’t that he’s rude, it’s that his idea of manliness often includes a lot of internalized notions that part of being manly is controlling and using women. The greatest harm and indignity to Wifey wasn’t that she was expected to damn well serve him a steak, it’s that he was given tacit cultural permission and even a certain degree of expectation to force her back into line if she didn’t- by beating if necessary*. African machismo is actually a perfect example of what feminists have a problem with- it may be the land where a man’s a man and slays the lions/rebels/other danger, but it’s also the land of a grotesquely high rate of rape and abuse. South Africa in particular is maybe the world’s capital for rape, and that’s rooted partially in general social chaos, but also in a notion of manhood that accepts the idea that women are there for the use of men**.
If you think this strain of thought and feeling is absent in modern American manhood, it’s not. It’s what makes the strong majority of stalkers men stalking former girlfriends or women who they feel SHOULD be their girlfriend, it’s what underlies the problems this pastor is talking about in getting clergy to respond usefully to domestic violence, it’s what makes otherwise ordinary and rational people question what an eleven-year-old girl could have done to cause her gang rape, it’s what led people to listen to Mel Gibson threatening to kill his girlfriend and conclude Mel was the wounded party most deserving of sympathy. It’s not gone. It’s not even far away from Google; it’s a very short trip when searching for men’s-rights and masculinist material to find ravingly misogynist writing. Art of Manliness (a site I like a lot) and Roissy might both have the same general goal in mind, but the latter also thinks, in addition to real men being in too-short supply, that a real man has sex with as many women as he can, prevents his partners from doing the same, and controls every relationship strictly on his own terms.
The second thing bound up within the culture of manhood we’re discussing is the idea that the worst thing in the world is femininity. Oh, it’s fine for girls and women, who simply can’t help it and have some other stuff going in their favor like being sexy, but the worst possible thing a boy or man can do is be girly. Sissy, pussy (female genitals), girly-man, even the various gay-related slurs all have to do with being somehow womanlike. For reasons that should be obvious but perhaps are not, feminists are somewhat perturbed by the notion that being like a woman is an absolutely horrible thing that any right-thinking man must do his best to avoid. It doesn’t put women in a great position, and being able to have babies and cry isn’t nearly as much a consolation prize as it might seem***.
Now for my quibble with the original post.
A transition occurred. It was once that the “Wifey” served up a steak meal for her man. Unfair and sexist, and fuel for a positive change. The change, though, turned modern man into a weak passive herbivore. Modern man was forced to fix his faults by no longer being a man.
Since when? Metrosexual and effeminate men aren’t anywhere near to being a majority, here and maybe not anywhere else. I agree the best and finest kind of man is in shorter supply than he should be, but a young man today is far more likely to be swallowed up in the culture of Bro than the culture of eye shadow and weeping. Bro culture is a lot of things, but effeminate it definitely is not and it sure as hell keeps all that I just described as worst about traditional notions of manhood. Not even feminists think we won out here.
The part with which I very much agree:
It is the passionate carnivore that is needed. Modern man needs to be a man. A man that is masculine, but still a gentleman. A man that will show strength FOR a woman, not just TO a woman. A man that will work not for a wage, but for a family - for the honor and integrity of completing an honest day’s work to provide and protect.
You can be a gentleman that has the caveman’s masculine skills, but not bluntly delivered. Strength, not aggression. Character, not abruptness. Polite presence, not boorish intrusion. Persevere, don’t retreat.
Step away from what others have defined for you. Don’t be the man watered down by political correctness. Be an improved man for your wife, girlfriend, lover, friends, and family. Define your masculinity by the strength of your character.
In short, “be a good man, not merely a man”. It’s a terrible thing for anyone, male or female, to define themselves as people based around a fuzzy idea of what the opposite sex wants or expects of them. I’ve written before how much I appreciate that, for Stingray, masculinity is entirely about him and cannot be reduced or diminished by anything I or any other woman does.
That said, I don’t think it’s such a terrible thing if men are being sensitive or less than the manliest stoic because that’s actually who they are and they now have greater cultural permission to be that way. I know my tastes in men definitely run to the traditionally masculine, but a lot of my female friends really do like more sensitive, less rough-edged, and even pretty men- that are actually that way and not adopting a cultural pose to please anyone, including other men. And that’s okay- there’s plenty of middle ground in between the stoic provider and a useless weeper. Forced to choose between a manly soldier that treated my emotions as being akin to my period in being a messy woman thing to be dealt with as little as possible and a poet who was afraid of spiders, I think I’d probably go with the poet. One thing my girlfriends and I can all agree on is that we want a lover and a friend first, everything else second- and for the record, I fucking hate those “dad’s a dolt” sitcoms and commercials too.
*The US has a comparatively admirable if far from perfect legal history of condemning wife-beating, but I think we can all agree the culture of manhood goes back a lot further than the United States. The culture that gives us the word “virtue”- whose root translation basically IS “manliness”- also considered women to be the legal property of men.
**Here’s a rather hilarious distillation. Very NSFW.
***One of those posts I’ve never been able to punch into shape is a much longer discussion of how almost all real virtues are defined as manly traits, and most “feminine” traits aren’t really virtues, are virtues generally considered to be unisex but women are somehow better at, or are of extremely limited use.