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	<description>Free Radicals</description>
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		<title>By: Randomique</title>
		<link>http://www.atomicnerds.com/?p=67&#038;cpage=1#comment-6892</link>
		<dc:creator>Randomique</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 06:54:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brilliant!</description>
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		<title>By: Mr you know who</title>
		<link>http://www.atomicnerds.com/?p=67&#038;cpage=1#comment-5195</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr you know who</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 01:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great to hear this side of the story. 
I have some friends and acquaintances who are into Raw (and a couple of them I would describe as Raw Food Nazis). I think it&#039;s more accurate to say they are enslaved to their diets. 

I had a raw food friend stay over recently and she ate like a horse - continously! She admitted to me her diet has become a problem: it drains all of her spare money - which means as a student she&#039;s in debt and living in poverty. The search for suitable raw organic food is a constant pursuit which occupies a large part of her time and money. She experiences great anxiety at the thought of eating anything cooked because she has swallowed the big lie that &quot;cooked food is toxic.&quot; 

With some people I have met who are into Raw it is I believe a massive ego trip. It&#039;s ALL they talk about, it occupies their time and their life and they want to ram it down not just your throat - but everyone elses too. Yes, like you say, it&#039;s more like a religion. 

Me, I enjoy the best of both worlds - I think it&#039;s great to eat clean, raw food as well as having the great pleasure to eat Granmas delicious and nutritious home baked lasagne I had the other night!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great to hear this side of the story.<br />
I have some friends and acquaintances who are into Raw (and a couple of them I would describe as Raw Food Nazis). I think it&#8217;s more accurate to say they are enslaved to their diets. </p>
<p>I had a raw food friend stay over recently and she ate like a horse &#8211; continously! She admitted to me her diet has become a problem: it drains all of her spare money &#8211; which means as a student she&#8217;s in debt and living in poverty. The search for suitable raw organic food is a constant pursuit which occupies a large part of her time and money. She experiences great anxiety at the thought of eating anything cooked because she has swallowed the big lie that &#8220;cooked food is toxic.&#8221; </p>
<p>With some people I have met who are into Raw it is I believe a massive ego trip. It&#8217;s ALL they talk about, it occupies their time and their life and they want to ram it down not just your throat &#8211; but everyone elses too. Yes, like you say, it&#8217;s more like a religion. </p>
<p>Me, I enjoy the best of both worlds &#8211; I think it&#8217;s great to eat clean, raw food as well as having the great pleasure to eat Granmas delicious and nutritious home baked lasagne I had the other night!</p>
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		<title>By: Cedric</title>
		<link>http://www.atomicnerds.com/?p=67&#038;cpage=1#comment-3584</link>
		<dc:creator>Cedric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 21:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Coming from a former 100% raw foodist, everyone is a raw foodist. Enjoy Remarkable benefits from both  raw/cooked foods.   Plain and simple, Veggies,fruit,fat,meat are all good for you. Find your own balance and everything else will follow.  
-Cedric</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coming from a former 100% raw foodist, everyone is a raw foodist. Enjoy Remarkable benefits from both  raw/cooked foods.   Plain and simple, Veggies,fruit,fat,meat are all good for you. Find your own balance and everything else will follow.<br />
-Cedric</p>
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		<title>By: Stingray</title>
		<link>http://www.atomicnerds.com/?p=67&#038;cpage=1#comment-316</link>
		<dc:creator>Stingray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 21:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;ve not only read it and loved it, but &quot;It Must&#039;ve Been Something I Ate&quot; should be arriving on our doorstep from Amazon in a few days. Jeffery is well loved in this house.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ve not only read it and loved it, but &#8220;It Must&#8217;ve Been Something I Ate&#8221; should be arriving on our doorstep from Amazon in a few days. Jeffery is well loved in this house.</p>
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		<title>By: m</title>
		<link>http://www.atomicnerds.com/?p=67&#038;cpage=1#comment-315</link>
		<dc:creator>m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 19:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Try reading in Steingarten&#039;s The Man Who Ate Everything, the chapter on Salad the Silent Killer. This blog seems to have reprinted it.

http://leni.wordpress.com/2006/09/24/salad-the-silent-killer/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try reading in Steingarten&#8217;s The Man Who Ate Everything, the chapter on Salad the Silent Killer. This blog seems to have reprinted it.</p>
<p><a href="http://leni.wordpress.com/2006/09/24/salad-the-silent-killer/" rel="nofollow">http://leni.wordpress.com/2006/09/24/salad-the-silent-killer/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kate Pond</title>
		<link>http://www.atomicnerds.com/?p=67&#038;cpage=1#comment-258</link>
		<dc:creator>Kate Pond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 18:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the stinging coment on acid/alkaline balances. You could also try not breathing, or, hyperventilation. One gives you acidosis and the other gives you alkolosis. And you don&#039;t know what feeling good is until  you&#039;ve had a good case of alkalosis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the stinging coment on acid/alkaline balances. You could also try not breathing, or, hyperventilation. One gives you acidosis and the other gives you alkolosis. And you don&#8217;t know what feeling good is until  you&#8217;ve had a good case of alkalosis.</p>
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		<title>By: LabRat</title>
		<link>http://www.atomicnerds.com/?p=67&#038;cpage=1#comment-252</link>
		<dc:creator>LabRat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 16:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Red: I don&#039;t know, we were just riffing on the &quot;raw is holy&quot; concept in general.  From what I&#039;ve heard from raw foodists, they barely agree with each other on what&#039;s good.

I did know a fisherman from Louisiana, though, who would take his share of sashimi straight off the tuna while it was still flopping.  He was definitely not a raw-foodist, just hardcore about his fish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Red: I don&#8217;t know, we were just riffing on the &#8220;raw is holy&#8221; concept in general.  From what I&#8217;ve heard from raw foodists, they barely agree with each other on what&#8217;s good.</p>
<p>I did know a fisherman from Louisiana, though, who would take his share of sashimi straight off the tuna while it was still flopping.  He was definitely not a raw-foodist, just hardcore about his fish.</p>
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		<title>By: Red</title>
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		<dc:creator>Red</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 15:58:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So raw-foodists eat sushi or sashimi and consider it alive? Funny, considering that all raw fish in the US must be frozen -- to kill off parasites -- before it is legal to serve. Most of the raw fish served in Japan is also frozen before it is served. Doesn&#039;t seem very &quot;alive&quot; to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So raw-foodists eat sushi or sashimi and consider it alive? Funny, considering that all raw fish in the US must be frozen &#8212; to kill off parasites &#8212; before it is legal to serve. Most of the raw fish served in Japan is also frozen before it is served. Doesn&#8217;t seem very &#8220;alive&#8221; to me.</p>
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		<title>By: LabRat</title>
		<link>http://www.atomicnerds.com/?p=67&#038;cpage=1#comment-249</link>
		<dc:creator>LabRat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 02:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I don&#039;t disagree with you either; when I say &quot;nutrients&quot;, I mean &quot;macronutrients&quot;, which until just now I&#039;d always thought only meant protein, fat, and carbohydrates when used in this context.  I usually say &quot;minerals&quot; or &quot;vitamins&quot; seperately.  I stand corrected.

I haven&#039;t always been the biggest fan of veggies flavorwise, but I&#039;ve been reforming.  My grindy-axe is with vegetarians who insist that meat isn&#039;t nutritious, not with vegetables in and of themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I don&#8217;t disagree with you either; when I say &#8220;nutrients&#8221;, I mean &#8220;macronutrients&#8221;, which until just now I&#8217;d always thought only meant protein, fat, and carbohydrates when used in this context.  I usually say &#8220;minerals&#8221; or &#8220;vitamins&#8221; seperately.  I stand corrected.</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t always been the biggest fan of veggies flavorwise, but I&#8217;ve been reforming.  My grindy-axe is with vegetarians who insist that meat isn&#8217;t nutritious, not with vegetables in and of themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: darkleafy</title>
		<link>http://www.atomicnerds.com/?p=67&#038;cpage=1#comment-248</link>
		<dc:creator>darkleafy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 01:01:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the most part I agree with you, or rather, don&#039;t exactly disagree.  But on one point you are incorrect: fruits and vegetables--especially vegetables--ARE some of the most nutrient-dense things we can eat.  They&#039;re just not CALORIE dense.  10 ounces of spinach has ridiculous amounts of vitamins and macronutrients and all that good crap, but is really low in calories for all of that good stuff.  

So the more veggies the better.  Cram &#039;em down.  Unlimited amounts.  

On the other hand, equally tasty things like meat and nuts are fat- and calorie-dense, which though not necessarily a bad thing, means we need to express more moderation in the amounts we eat.

As someone who loves veggies both cooked and raw but who also loves meat (I like beef warmed up just enough to kill the e. coli, salmon and tuna raw when safe/possible, but pork and chicken definitely thoroughly done through) and has a serious nut addiction, I&#039;ve no agenda or axe to grind.  Just tryin&#039; to stick up for the veggies.  They&#039;re our pals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the most part I agree with you, or rather, don&#8217;t exactly disagree.  But on one point you are incorrect: fruits and vegetables&#8211;especially vegetables&#8211;ARE some of the most nutrient-dense things we can eat.  They&#8217;re just not CALORIE dense.  10 ounces of spinach has ridiculous amounts of vitamins and macronutrients and all that good crap, but is really low in calories for all of that good stuff.  </p>
<p>So the more veggies the better.  Cram &#8216;em down.  Unlimited amounts.  </p>
<p>On the other hand, equally tasty things like meat and nuts are fat- and calorie-dense, which though not necessarily a bad thing, means we need to express more moderation in the amounts we eat.</p>
<p>As someone who loves veggies both cooked and raw but who also loves meat (I like beef warmed up just enough to kill the e. coli, salmon and tuna raw when safe/possible, but pork and chicken definitely thoroughly done through) and has a serious nut addiction, I&#8217;ve no agenda or axe to grind.  Just tryin&#8217; to stick up for the veggies.  They&#8217;re our pals.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark&#8217;s Daily Apple &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Raw Food Gets Served</title>
		<link>http://www.atomicnerds.com/?p=67&#038;cpage=1#comment-247</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark&#8217;s Daily Apple &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Raw Food Gets Served</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 19:33:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] temperature, while other food is &#8220;dead&#8221; and therefore poison? Another blogger posted a brutal assessment of raw food in response to Friday&#8217;s post, and I couldn&#8217;t have said it better. Go read [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] temperature, while other food is &#8220;dead&#8221; and therefore poison? Another blogger posted a brutal assessment of raw food in response to Friday&#8217;s post, and I couldn&#8217;t have said it better. Go read [...]</p>
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		<title>By: LabRat</title>
		<link>http://www.atomicnerds.com/?p=67&#038;cpage=1#comment-245</link>
		<dc:creator>LabRat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 02:24:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Plus an entire galaxy of sashimi.  I now consider it tantamount to a crime to cook really high-quality tuna at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Plus an entire galaxy of sashimi.  I now consider it tantamount to a crime to cook really high-quality tuna at all.</p>
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		<title>By: daddyquatro</title>
		<link>http://www.atomicnerds.com/?p=67&#038;cpage=1#comment-244</link>
		<dc:creator>daddyquatro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 01:27:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GeorgeH,
Well, I do like carrot and celery sticks with my hot wings and you can&#039;t have barbecue without some raw onion to accompany the pickles and jalapeños.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GeorgeH,<br />
Well, I do like carrot and celery sticks with my hot wings and you can&#8217;t have barbecue without some raw onion to accompany the pickles and jalapeños.</p>
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		<title>By: GeorgeH</title>
		<link>http://www.atomicnerds.com/?p=67&#038;cpage=1#comment-243</link>
		<dc:creator>GeorgeH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 01:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Raw Food?
There are oysters with mignonette sauce, there is celery in a bloody mary, there is a nice salad before the steak, there is even gazpacho in season.
What more could there be?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Raw Food?<br />
There are oysters with mignonette sauce, there is celery in a bloody mary, there is a nice salad before the steak, there is even gazpacho in season.<br />
What more could there be?</p>
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		<title>By: daddyquatro</title>
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		<dc:creator>daddyquatro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 04:55:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>um... thanks?
-the commenter formerly known as D4</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>um&#8230; thanks?<br />
-the commenter formerly known as D4</p>
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