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		<title>By: LabRat</title>
		<link>http://www.atomicnerds.com/?p=245&#038;cpage=1#comment-1612</link>
		<dc:creator>LabRat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 01:17:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, Saints suffered a lot from the same popularity problem Goldens experienced.  They&#039;re not supposed to be aggressive in any way, especially not to strangers- they&#039;re supposed to RESCUE strangers, not guard against them!

There&#039;s a big difference between a naturally reticent or outgoing dog and a dog with a fundamental temperamental instability.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, Saints suffered a lot from the same popularity problem Goldens experienced.  They&#8217;re not supposed to be aggressive in any way, especially not to strangers- they&#8217;re supposed to RESCUE strangers, not guard against them!</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a big difference between a naturally reticent or outgoing dog and a dog with a fundamental temperamental instability.</p>
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		<title>By: Kaerius</title>
		<link>http://www.atomicnerds.com/?p=245&#038;cpage=1#comment-1609</link>
		<dc:creator>Kaerius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 23:53:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a fellow dog lover, but I&#039;ve never had one of my own. However I still grew up with dogs(grandparents/neighbours).

So far I have only encountered 3 dogs with any sort of mental problems.

1 Japanese Chin - extreme fear, this dog would barely get out from under the couch for the owners, much less anyone else.

2 St. Bernards - two of them, and I think from the same litter, they became hostile to strangers when they grew up(I could play with them when they were pups/young), only grandpa and the neighbour that owned them could handle them after that.  

Of course, I have left out the many dogs that are afraid /cautious of strangers, but can be befriended by those with patience, or be cured by simple training.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a fellow dog lover, but I&#8217;ve never had one of my own. However I still grew up with dogs(grandparents/neighbours).</p>
<p>So far I have only encountered 3 dogs with any sort of mental problems.</p>
<p>1 Japanese Chin &#8211; extreme fear, this dog would barely get out from under the couch for the owners, much less anyone else.</p>
<p>2 St. Bernards &#8211; two of them, and I think from the same litter, they became hostile to strangers when they grew up(I could play with them when they were pups/young), only grandpa and the neighbour that owned them could handle them after that.  </p>
<p>Of course, I have left out the many dogs that are afraid /cautious of strangers, but can be befriended by those with patience, or be cured by simple training.</p>
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		<title>By: daddyquatro</title>
		<link>http://www.atomicnerds.com/?p=245&#038;cpage=1#comment-1568</link>
		<dc:creator>daddyquatro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2008 10:34:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now this is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.latimes.com/news/science/la-fg-zoo30dec30,1,4549523.story?track=rss&amp;ctrack=1&amp;cset=true&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;interesting.&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;i&gt;&quot;Several lions and a cheetah that used to belong to Saddam Hussein&#039;s son Uday are among the major attractions. Some of the animals might seem odd for a zoo in another part of the world. For example, a caged black Labrador that many Iraqi visitors refer to as the &quot;American dog&quot; is a popular attraction.

Shoupe, the public affairs officer, said the Labrador is an object of fascination because it is a purebred, uncommon in Baghdad. But it is unclear why some Iraqis refer to the Lab, a breed prominent in many countries, as the &quot;American dog.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now this is <a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/science/la-fg-zoo30dec30,1,4549523.story?track=rss&amp;ctrack=1&amp;cset=true" rel="nofollow">interesting.</a></p>
<p><i>&#8220;Several lions and a cheetah that used to belong to Saddam Hussein&#8217;s son Uday are among the major attractions. Some of the animals might seem odd for a zoo in another part of the world. For example, a caged black Labrador that many Iraqi visitors refer to as the &#8220;American dog&#8221; is a popular attraction.</p>
<p>Shoupe, the public affairs officer, said the Labrador is an object of fascination because it is a purebred, uncommon in Baghdad. But it is unclear why some Iraqis refer to the Lab, a breed prominent in many countries, as the &#8220;American dog.&#8221;</i></p>
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		<title>By: LabRat</title>
		<link>http://www.atomicnerds.com/?p=245&#038;cpage=1#comment-1567</link>
		<dc:creator>LabRat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2008 01:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On that score you&#039;re absolutely right.  Terrierman on my blogroll has written a lot of very caustic and very on-target rants about that.  The AKC has utterly ruined several working breeds for work as well as perpetuating breeding practices that lead to chronic health problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On that score you&#8217;re absolutely right.  Terrierman on my blogroll has written a lot of very caustic and very on-target rants about that.  The AKC has utterly ruined several working breeds for work as well as perpetuating breeding practices that lead to chronic health problems.</p>
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		<title>By: daddyquatro</title>
		<link>http://www.atomicnerds.com/?p=245&#038;cpage=1#comment-1566</link>
		<dc:creator>daddyquatro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2008 01:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since my experience is limited to two rescues, I&#039;ll defer to those with greater knowledge.
My only point being that the AKC&#039;s insistence on &lt;i&gt;desirable&lt;/i&gt; traits have doomed several breeds to chronic health problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since my experience is limited to two rescues, I&#8217;ll defer to those with greater knowledge.<br />
My only point being that the AKC&#8217;s insistence on <i>desirable</i> traits have doomed several breeds to chronic health problems.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
		<link>http://www.atomicnerds.com/?p=245&#038;cpage=1#comment-1565</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 21:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our family has had several dogs in my lifetime, most of them rescues -- my uncle is a vet and we ended up taking dogs brought in to be euthanized because the owners didn&#039;t want them anymore. Got &lt;i&gt;the&lt;/i&gt; best dog in the world that way (gorgeous Shepherd/Akita mix). Also got a pretty yucky dog that way, too. It&#039;s a gamble.

Edited to note: I&#039;d never even heard of pit bulls until the late &#039;80s. The big bad bully dog when I was growing up was the doberman. Shepherds kinda, too. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our family has had several dogs in my lifetime, most of them rescues &#8212; my uncle is a vet and we ended up taking dogs brought in to be euthanized because the owners didn&#8217;t want them anymore. Got <i>the</i> best dog in the world that way (gorgeous Shepherd/Akita mix). Also got a pretty yucky dog that way, too. It&#8217;s a gamble.</p>
<p>Edited to note: I&#8217;d never even heard of pit bulls until the late &#8217;80s. The big bad bully dog when I was growing up was the doberman. Shepherds kinda, too.</p>
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		<title>By: LabRat</title>
		<link>http://www.atomicnerds.com/?p=245&#038;cpage=1#comment-1564</link>
		<dc:creator>LabRat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 20:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rescues vs. Purebreds is a pretty muddy issue.  Y&#039;all are right in that most of the public&#039;s mindset on &quot;purebred&quot; is pure bullshit, but mutts are DEFINITELY not automatically healthier, more stable, or brighter- I&#039;ve seen and heard just as many horror stories on rescued dogs as on badly-bred or badly-chosen purebreds, ultimately speaking.  More of the hazards are the same than some people realize- unstable temperaments are everywhere- but ultimately it boils down to a choice of which set of risks and rewards is most appealing/least threatening.

...Actually, it merits its own post when I get the time, really.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rescues vs. Purebreds is a pretty muddy issue.  Y&#8217;all are right in that most of the public&#8217;s mindset on &#8220;purebred&#8221; is pure bullshit, but mutts are DEFINITELY not automatically healthier, more stable, or brighter- I&#8217;ve seen and heard just as many horror stories on rescued dogs as on badly-bred or badly-chosen purebreds, ultimately speaking.  More of the hazards are the same than some people realize- unstable temperaments are everywhere- but ultimately it boils down to a choice of which set of risks and rewards is most appealing/least threatening.</p>
<p>&#8230;Actually, it merits its own post when I get the time, really.</p>
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		<title>By: Rabbit</title>
		<link>http://www.atomicnerds.com/?p=245&#038;cpage=1#comment-1563</link>
		<dc:creator>Rabbit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 19:50:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the last 15 years or so, every dog who has come to me has been a rescued animal of some sort. Roscoe, the huge black Labrador, was the &#039;farm dog&#039; who lived at a friend&#039;s dairy. One of the dairy neighbors shot him with birdshot after he &#039;acted aggressively&#039; toward one of their evil spawn. I was visiting our dairy owner friends when he ran under their porch after being shot; I bundled him up in a blanket and took him back home with me for the vet to repair. Fortunately, nothing penetrated anything truly vital, and he healed quickly, but he was never the same after that and was quick to snap if he felt the least bit threatened.

Currently, I have the Fox Terror, who came from the vet tech program at a local community college, the yellow Lab who my mom adopted from the shelter, then decided was &#039;too big and wild&#039; and tried to send back, and the Siberian, who came from a rescue after her owner died. The only problems I&#039;ve had with them are that they&#039;re all too clever for their own good- the Siberian can open doorknobs, for example.

A long time ago, I raised Spitzes/American Eskimos. I love the Arctic types, but Spitzes can be little 25 pound Maverick missles with faulty guidance systems. You know it&#039;s going to go off, you just never know when or where...and they cloak it behind a smile that is the very spirit of Christmas.

Regards,
Rabbit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the last 15 years or so, every dog who has come to me has been a rescued animal of some sort. Roscoe, the huge black Labrador, was the &#8216;farm dog&#8217; who lived at a friend&#8217;s dairy. One of the dairy neighbors shot him with birdshot after he &#8216;acted aggressively&#8217; toward one of their evil spawn. I was visiting our dairy owner friends when he ran under their porch after being shot; I bundled him up in a blanket and took him back home with me for the vet to repair. Fortunately, nothing penetrated anything truly vital, and he healed quickly, but he was never the same after that and was quick to snap if he felt the least bit threatened.</p>
<p>Currently, I have the Fox Terror, who came from the vet tech program at a local community college, the yellow Lab who my mom adopted from the shelter, then decided was &#8216;too big and wild&#8217; and tried to send back, and the Siberian, who came from a rescue after her owner died. The only problems I&#8217;ve had with them are that they&#8217;re all too clever for their own good- the Siberian can open doorknobs, for example.</p>
<p>A long time ago, I raised Spitzes/American Eskimos. I love the Arctic types, but Spitzes can be little 25 pound Maverick missles with faulty guidance systems. You know it&#8217;s going to go off, you just never know when or where&#8230;and they cloak it behind a smile that is the very spirit of Christmas.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Rabbit.</p>
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		<title>By: Nomen Nescio</title>
		<link>http://www.atomicnerds.com/?p=245&#038;cpage=1#comment-1562</link>
		<dc:creator>Nomen Nescio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 14:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great big applause for the lovable mutts from the local shelter. paying top dollar for a purebreed is silly when mixed-breeds are typically healthier and often smarter.

of course, some part of that is no doubt due to shelters killing the unmanageable head cases first, but that&#039;s no worse than the culling a responsible breeder ought to be doing anyway, so...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great big applause for the lovable mutts from the local shelter. paying top dollar for a purebreed is silly when mixed-breeds are typically healthier and often smarter.</p>
<p>of course, some part of that is no doubt due to shelters killing the unmanageable head cases first, but that&#8217;s no worse than the culling a responsible breeder ought to be doing anyway, so&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: daddyquatro</title>
		<link>http://www.atomicnerds.com/?p=245&#038;cpage=1#comment-1561</link>
		<dc:creator>daddyquatro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 05:39:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve never owned a pure bred anything. All of my dogs have been &quot;dawgs&quot;, as sweet and loyal as can be. The only money I have ever spent to buy a dog were the shelter fees for shots and snips.
AKC has brainwashed the public into thinking that &quot;pure&quot; means &quot;good&quot; hence the over/in breeding you sited.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never owned a pure bred anything. All of my dogs have been &#8220;dawgs&#8221;, as sweet and loyal as can be. The only money I have ever spent to buy a dog were the shelter fees for shots and snips.<br />
AKC has brainwashed the public into thinking that &#8220;pure&#8221; means &#8220;good&#8221; hence the over/in breeding you sited.</p>
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		<title>By: LabRat</title>
		<link>http://www.atomicnerds.com/?p=245&#038;cpage=1#comment-1560</link>
		<dc:creator>LabRat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 00:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GeorgeH: Yeah, the Cockers and Beagles went through first what Goldens and now probably Labradors are going through now: nearly destroyed by their great reputation.

Today&#039;s Cockers still contain a few little gems that are true to original breed type, but most of the ones we had to deal with had raging, chronic, painful health problems to go along with unstable temperaments.  Dealing with a dog that&#039;s already &quot;weird&quot; is that much more fun when it also has incredible, intractable ear infections.  Add in some really, really scary aggression that can pop up with them, and I still won&#039;t pet or really even go near a cocker unless I already know the dog well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GeorgeH: Yeah, the Cockers and Beagles went through first what Goldens and now probably Labradors are going through now: nearly destroyed by their great reputation.</p>
<p>Today&#8217;s Cockers still contain a few little gems that are true to original breed type, but most of the ones we had to deal with had raging, chronic, painful health problems to go along with unstable temperaments.  Dealing with a dog that&#8217;s already &#8220;weird&#8221; is that much more fun when it also has incredible, intractable ear infections.  Add in some really, really scary aggression that can pop up with them, and I still won&#8217;t pet or really even go near a cocker unless I already know the dog well.</p>
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		<title>By: Vertelemming</title>
		<link>http://www.atomicnerds.com/?p=245&#038;cpage=1#comment-1559</link>
		<dc:creator>Vertelemming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2007 23:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed on all counts. Being the only dog-friendly camping ground in town, we tend to get a lot of varied breeds through over the course of a single year. I&#039;ve met pit-bull type dogs that have been the sweetest, most playful dogs you could find. So long as you keep them away from the yard our dogs play in, of course. We&#039;ve also had a few bad dog owners through here now and then who have aggressive, sullen pit-bull type dogs that should probably be given extensive retraining with a professional owner.

Myself, I generally feel pretty comfortable approaching a pit bull, so long as the owner is around or it&#039;s in a controlled environment. And once they&#039;ve had a sniff and gotten to know me, they&#039;re almost always very affectionate and open for attention, then and in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed on all counts. Being the only dog-friendly camping ground in town, we tend to get a lot of varied breeds through over the course of a single year. I&#8217;ve met pit-bull type dogs that have been the sweetest, most playful dogs you could find. So long as you keep them away from the yard our dogs play in, of course. We&#8217;ve also had a few bad dog owners through here now and then who have aggressive, sullen pit-bull type dogs that should probably be given extensive retraining with a professional owner.</p>
<p>Myself, I generally feel pretty comfortable approaching a pit bull, so long as the owner is around or it&#8217;s in a controlled environment. And once they&#8217;ve had a sniff and gotten to know me, they&#8217;re almost always very affectionate and open for attention, then and in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: GeorgeH</title>
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		<dc:creator>GeorgeH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2007 22:25:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The lady in France that had the first full face transplant had her original face bitten off by a Labrador Retriever.
The bloodline and the handling are what count. Fifty years ago Cocker spaniels were the perfect dog for kids, placid and passive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The lady in France that had the first full face transplant had her original face bitten off by a Labrador Retriever.<br />
The bloodline and the handling are what count. Fifty years ago Cocker spaniels were the perfect dog for kids, placid and passive.</p>
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